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On 6/25/25 01:55, Daniel wrote:
> I have high hopes people are still watching this NG and waiting for
> posts to talk.
>
> Prove me right.
>
> D



    I've seen no activity in this group for some time, now. Shame, too.
Some very knowledgeable people have participated here.

    So, yes, you're right...this group is still being watched.

    But, there's little to talk about, when people aren't talking.

	p

Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote in news:87y0tge2eu.fsf@rpi3:

> I have high hopes people are still watching this NG and waiting for
> posts to talk.
>
> Prove me right.
>
> D
>

What would you like to discuss?

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On 6/25/2025 2:55 AM, Daniel wrote:
> I have high hopes people are still watching this NG and waiting for
> posts to talk.
>
> Prove me right.
>
> D

No, this group has been almost dead activity-wise since a couple of
years before the GG shutdown.  I remember when I first signed on circa
2015 it was still very active.  Maybe they've moved to Facebook.  I
still check in every once in a while to see if someone's posted.

David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> writes:

> Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote in news:87y0tge2eu.fsf@rpi3:
>
>> I have high hopes people are still watching this NG and waiting for
>> posts to talk.
>>
>> Prove me right.
>>
>> D
>>
>
> What would you like to discuss?

Hey guys. Well, I spend very little time in GUI environments and when I
do, there is a forum for antique radios. I was hoping we could have
similar discussions in here that you would find there.

I listen to the radio often, almost exclusively sports radio and game
broadcasts. When I say often, it's generally first thing in the morning
until I fall asleep at night.

I had been watching a few youtuber posts, both rather qwerky
personalities, who focus on radio repair. One simply does repair while
another repairs and restores.

I usually watched the vids because it was almost meditative. A few years
ago I had an idea of obtaining a nice, quality early transistor radio to
replace the one in my den. Then, recently, I stumbled upon a nice
console radio at a neighbor's house gathering. It seemed to be restored
and the guy said it was his grandfather's and, other than replacing
vacuum tubes the thing is as it was when inheriting it. I asked to look
inside but he showed me pictures of it instead. Obviously, his
grandfather had replaced the old capacitors.

I asked him to turn the radio on and I was really surprised how pleasant
and warm the broadcast sound on an old tube radio. Not sure if it's the
speakers or tubes, actually. The guy just has it there because it looks
nice but doesnt use it. I tried to offer cash for it but he had zero
interest in letting it go.

I lack the skills to buy a broken radio and repair it. Shango offered to
fix one for me if I get my hands on one.

Do you guys have tube radios at home?

Daniel

David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> writes:

> Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote in news:87pleqdnoc.fsf@rpi3:
>
>> David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> writes:
>>
>>> Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote in news:87y0tge2eu.fsf@rpi3:
>>>
>>>> I have high hopes people are still watching this NG and waiting for
>>>> posts to talk.
>>>>
>>>> Prove me right.
>>>>
>>>> D
>>>>
>>>
>>> What would you like to discuss?
>>
>> Hey guys. Well, I spend very little time in GUI environments and when I
>> do, there is a forum for antique radios. I was hoping we could have
>> similar discussions in here that you would find there.
>>
>> I listen to the radio often, almost exclusively sports radio and game
>> broadcasts. When I say often, it's generally first thing in the morning
>> until I fall asleep at night.
>>
>> I had been watching a few youtuber posts, both rather qwerky
>> personalities, who focus on radio repair. One simply does repair while
>> another repairs and restores.
>>
>> I usually watched the vids because it was almost meditative. A few years
>> ago I had an idea of obtaining a nice, quality early transistor radio to
>> replace the one in my den. Then, recently, I stumbled upon a nice
>> console radio at a neighbor's house gathering. It seemed to be restored
>> and the guy said it was his grandfather's and, other than replacing
>> vacuum tubes the thing is as it was when inheriting it. I asked to look
>> inside but he showed me pictures of it instead. Obviously, his
>> grandfather had replaced the old capacitors.
>>
>> I asked him to turn the radio on and I was really surprised how pleasant
>> and warm the broadcast sound on an old tube radio. Not sure if it's the
>> speakers or tubes, actually. The guy just has it there because it looks
>> nice but doesnt use it. I tried to offer cash for it but he had zero
>> interest in letting it go.
>>
>> I lack the skills to buy a broken radio and repair it. Shango offered to
>> fix one for me if I get my hands on one.
>>
>> Do you guys have tube radios at home?
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>
> I have my grandparent's 5-band 1943 Philco radio.  AM through shortwave.
> Used to be very active.  Now mostly decorative since it is a tombstone
> radio.  About 24" deep x 24" wide x 36" high.  One tube is questionable but
> when on the bands that work it sounds wonderful.  I don't recall how many
> tubes there are.  I could look at the back and see.  The original areal
> wire broke in the 80s and was replaced by teflon wire.  The power plug is
> repaired but still mostly the cotton covered wire.  The original speaker
> still works.  Dusty, a few scratches, and drippings of white paint.
>
> I spent so many hours listening to old time radio on AM, airplanes before
> most went to digital radios, short wave from other contries, and of course
> WWV for the date and time.
>
> No one to pass it on to here.  I might pass it on to a good home.
>
> David

Interesting. My mom has our old console tv set they bought in the 60s
before I was born. It's a big piece of furniture with the color tv
module in the center front. On top, the lid opens to a phonograph player
and radio. My brother and I rode our bikes once, to radio shack,
with dead tubes from the tv. They had bins with new tubes that we
matched with the old ones, and then rode home. My brother plugged them
in and the tv worked.

We used that TV until we moved into my parents' dream home and they
bought a projection big screen tv - 1985 or so. That old console is in
her basement covered in plastic. Most memorable things I saw on that tv
was a show called 'in search of,' 'the wizard of oz,' (which i recorded
on our new vcr in 1982), '1984 olympics.'

I would like to have a few tube radios for various areas of the
house. My kitchen has a radio my wife bought but only has AM
band. Nothing in the living room. Our master has only a clock radio.

So, I know it would be nice to have at least four of them.

I live in northern california and there's a radio museum in Alameda,
CA. The're having a big bruhaha in mid-July that I can't attend,
unfortunately, but the museum has all sorts of antique radios on
display. There will be a huge sale too. I really wish I could go.

I am still researching radio brands and what was considered good quality
and what weren't.

Were some brands known to be cheaply made, corner cutting? Like, cheap
wood with oak veneer?

Next time I get to a GUI will spend some time on one of the radio
websites that lists all the brand/models and schematics.

I also considered buying an old radio chassis, have it repaired. A friend
of mine does alot of wood work. I talked to him about making a cabinet
for the chassis and fashion it like an original radio, but with
reclaimed wood. Like, maybe from decent wood pallets, sanded smooth and
creative stain use. Free pallets are often advertised on craigslist in
my area.

D

Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote in news:87pleqdnoc.fsf@rpi3:

> David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> writes:
>
>> Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote in news:87y0tge2eu.fsf@rpi3:
>>
>>> I have high hopes people are still watching this NG and waiting for
>>> posts to talk.
>>>
>>> Prove me right.
>>>
>>> D
>>>
>>
>> What would you like to discuss?
>
> Hey guys. Well, I spend very little time in GUI environments and when I
> do, there is a forum for antique radios. I was hoping we could have
> similar discussions in here that you would find there.
>
> I listen to the radio often, almost exclusively sports radio and game
> broadcasts. When I say often, it's generally first thing in the morning
> until I fall asleep at night.
>
> I had been watching a few youtuber posts, both rather qwerky
> personalities, who focus on radio repair. One simply does repair while
> another repairs and restores.
>
> I usually watched the vids because it was almost meditative. A few years
> ago I had an idea of obtaining a nice, quality early transistor radio to
> replace the one in my den. Then, recently, I stumbled upon a nice
> console radio at a neighbor's house gathering. It seemed to be restored
> and the guy said it was his grandfather's and, other than replacing
> vacuum tubes the thing is as it was when inheriting it. I asked to look
> inside but he showed me pictures of it instead. Obviously, his
> grandfather had replaced the old capacitors.
>
> I asked him to turn the radio on and I was really surprised how pleasant
> and warm the broadcast sound on an old tube radio. Not sure if it's the
> speakers or tubes, actually. The guy just has it there because it looks
> nice but doesnt use it. I tried to offer cash for it but he had zero
> interest in letting it go.
>
> I lack the skills to buy a broken radio and repair it. Shango offered to
> fix one for me if I get my hands on one.
>
> Do you guys have tube radios at home?
>
> Daniel
>

I have my grandparent's 5-band 1943 Philco radio.  AM through shortwave.
Used to be very active.  Now mostly decorative since it is a tombstone
radio.  About 24" deep x 24" wide x 36" high.  One tube is questionable but
when on the bands that work it sounds wonderful.  I don't recall how many
tubes there are.  I could look at the back and see.  The original areal
wire broke in the 80s and was replaced by teflon wire.  The power plug is
repaired but still mostly the cotton covered wire.  The original speaker
still works.  Dusty, a few scratches, and drippings of white paint.

I spent so many hours listening to old time radio on AM, airplanes before
most went to digital radios, short wave from other contries, and of course
WWV for the date and time.

No one to pass it on to here.  I might pass it on to a good home.

David

On 6/27/2025 3:14 AM, Daniel wrote:
>
> I also considered buying an old radio chassis, have it repaired. A friend
> of mine does alot of wood work. I talked to him about making a cabinet
> for the chassis and fashion it like an original radio, but with
> reclaimed wood. Like, maybe from decent wood pallets, sanded smooth and
> creative stain use. Free pallets are often advertised on craigslist in
> my area.

I have quite a number of old radios, and a couple of vacuum tube
televisions from the 40's - 60's.  I have the concept of restoring them,
a vacuum tube tester, and I have replaced some capacitors, but I just
never find time to work on them, or post here, unfortunately.  There are
lots of great instructional videos on YouTube to get started.

On 6/26/25 19:37, Daniel wrote:
> David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> writes:
>
>> Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote in news:87y0tge2eu.fsf@rpi3:
>>
>>> I have high hopes people are still watching this NG and waiting for
>>> posts to talk.
>>>
>>> Prove me right.
>>>
>>> D
>>>
>>
>> What would you like to discuss?
>
> Hey guys. Well, I spend very little time in GUI environments and when I
> do, there is a forum for antique radios. I was hoping we could have
> similar discussions in here that you would find there.
>
> I listen to the radio often, almost exclusively sports radio and game
> broadcasts. When I say often, it's generally first thing in the morning
> until I fall asleep at night.
>
> I had been watching a few youtuber posts, both rather qwerky
> personalities, who focus on radio repair. One simply does repair while
> another repairs and restores.
>
> I usually watched the vids because it was almost meditative. A few years
> ago I had an idea of obtaining a nice, quality early transistor radio to
> replace the one in my den. Then, recently, I stumbled upon a nice
> console radio at a neighbor's house gathering. It seemed to be restored
> and the guy said it was his grandfather's and, other than replacing
> vacuum tubes the thing is as it was when inheriting it. I asked to look
> inside but he showed me pictures of it instead. Obviously, his
> grandfather had replaced the old capacitors.
>
> I asked him to turn the radio on and I was really surprised how pleasant
> and warm the broadcast sound on an old tube radio. Not sure if it's the
> speakers or tubes, actually. The guy just has it there because it looks
> nice but doesnt use it. I tried to offer cash for it but he had zero
> interest in letting it go.
>
> I lack the skills to buy a broken radio and repair it. Shango offered to
> fix one for me if I get my hands on one.
>
> Do you guys have tube radios at home?
>
> Daniel

  Yes. Dozens. Radio locally is pretty poor, so I also have a
significant antenna array to draw in non-locals for better listening.

   p

On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 23:55:05 -0700, Daniel wrote:

> I have high hopes people are still watching this NG and waiting for
> posts to talk.
>
> Prove me right.
>
> D

I'm still here.  I've only been checking once a month but now that there
is some activity again, I will resume checking every day.  I am also
active on Antique Radio Forum.

I have a number of radios but lack the time to do much with them.  I have
one working in the bedroom.  It is a GE in a plastic cabinet with a PC
board.  I found it on the floor of a hall where I worked in the early
'70s.  It didn't work then and has been repaired several times since
then.  It has CD markings on the dial so that puts it at about 1960 more
or less.  It gets used most days anywhere from 5 minutes to 2 hours at a
stretch.

I also have another working set from about 1953.  It used to be a clock
radio but the clock and cabinet were long gone when I got it decades ago.
That one has also been repaired a number of times.  Since the cabinet is
missing it is easy to use it to prove that tubes are good (a real life
tube tester, not just a box with a meter).  It gets listened to
occasionally.

Watch out for stuff you see on Youtube or other similar sources; a lot of
it is garbage posted by people who don't know what they are talking about!

As far as wood cabinets with veneer, that is common, almost universal.
The ones to watch out for are the ones with photofinish.  That's just
paper with a printed wood pattern glued over cheap wood.  If you try to
refinish it, it all goes away.

One thing that many people don't consider is what are they going to listen
to?  Get a working radio from somewhere and see if there are any stations
that you like.  Where I live there are two AM stations that are
tolerable.  The last time I went to the bay area several years ago I
brought a portable AM/FM radio and found nothing worthwhile.

--
Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com

To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eggmen.
Then replace nospam with expressmail.  Lastly, replace com with dk.

Jim Mueller <wrongname@nospam.com> writes:

> On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 23:55:05 -0700, Daniel wrote:
>
>> I have high hopes people are still watching this NG and waiting for
>> posts to talk.
>>
>> Prove me right.
>>
>> D
>
> I'm still here.  I've only been checking once a month but now that there
> is some activity again, I will resume checking every day.  I am also
> active on Antique Radio Forum.
>
> I have a number of radios but lack the time to do much with them.  I have
> one working in the bedroom.  It is a GE in a plastic cabinet with a PC
> board.  I found it on the floor of a hall where I worked in the early
> '70s.  It didn't work then and has been repaired several times since
> then.  It has CD markings on the dial so that puts it at about 1960 more
> or less.  It gets used most days anywhere from 5 minutes to 2 hours at a
> stretch.
>
> I also have another working set from about 1953.  It used to be a clock
> radio but the clock and cabinet were long gone when I got it decades ago.
> That one has also been repaired a number of times.  Since the cabinet is
> missing it is easy to use it to prove that tubes are good (a real life
> tube tester, not just a box with a meter).  It gets listened to
> occasionally.
>
> Watch out for stuff you see on Youtube or other similar sources; a lot of
> it is garbage posted by people who don't know what they are talking about!

I watch the following youtubers,

shango066 - radio and tv repair with dry humor mixed in
glasslinger - radio restorer, occasional tv's, produces vacuum tubes
Antique Radio Archaeology - seems to be inactive, but tons of great
content
David Tipton - meticulous restorer
Buzz1151 - Watch this channel to a lesser degree

If you have other good ones, I will certainly take a look.

> As far as wood cabinets with veneer, that is common, almost universal.
> The ones to watch out for are the ones with photofinish.  That's just
> paper with a printed wood pattern glued over cheap wood.  If you try to
> refinish it, it all goes away.

I've considered buying a radio chassis off ebay, repairing, and working
with a woodcrafter friend of mine to build a cabinet, at first, with
reclaimed wood from a pallet. Then when we get the design right, make
one with oak. Or keep the original as-is. Bummer about veneers being
universal. I had hoped that good quality existed for some period for the
cabinets.

> One thing that many people don't consider is what are they going to listen
> to?  Get a working radio from somewhere and see if there are any stations
> that you like.  Where I live there are two AM stations that are
> tolerable.  The last time I went to the bay area several years ago I
> brought a portable AM/FM radio and found nothing worthwhile.

As a remote worker, I've been able to enjoy radio pretty much all
day. Where I live, we have copious radio stations in the AM band. I tend
to focus on three of them. One is sports talk (90%), one broadcasts our
local MLB team (local for now), and the other is political talk. I don't
live in the SF bay area, but I do stream their sports station KNBR
during Giants games and the postgame shows.

"D. Peter Maus" <DPeterMaus@att.net> writes:

> On 6/26/25 19:37, Daniel wrote:
>> David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> writes:
>>
>>> Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote in news:87y0tge2eu.fsf@rpi3:
>>>
>>>> I have high hopes people are still watching this NG and waiting for
>>>> posts to talk.
>>>>
>>>> Prove me right.
>>>>
>>>> D
>>>>
>>>
>>> What would you like to discuss?
>> Hey guys. Well, I spend very little time in GUI environments and
>> when I
>> do, there is a forum for antique radios. I was hoping we could have
>> similar discussions in here that you would find there.
>> I listen to the radio often, almost exclusively sports radio and
>> game
>> broadcasts. When I say often, it's generally first thing in the morning
>> until I fall asleep at night.
>> I had been watching a few youtuber posts, both rather qwerky
>> personalities, who focus on radio repair. One simply does repair while
>> another repairs and restores.
>> I usually watched the vids because it was almost meditative. A few
>> years
>> ago I had an idea of obtaining a nice, quality early transistor radio to
>> replace the one in my den. Then, recently, I stumbled upon a nice
>> console radio at a neighbor's house gathering. It seemed to be restored
>> and the guy said it was his grandfather's and, other than replacing
>> vacuum tubes the thing is as it was when inheriting it. I asked to look
>> inside but he showed me pictures of it instead. Obviously, his
>> grandfather had replaced the old capacitors.
>> I asked him to turn the radio on and I was really surprised how
>> pleasant
>> and warm the broadcast sound on an old tube radio. Not sure if it's the
>> speakers or tubes, actually. The guy just has it there because it looks
>> nice but doesnt use it. I tried to offer cash for it but he had zero
>> interest in letting it go.
>> I lack the skills to buy a broken radio and repair it. Shango
>> offered to
>> fix one for me if I get my hands on one.
>> Do you guys have tube radios at home?
>> Daniel
>
>  Yes. Dozens. Radio locally is pretty poor, so I also have a
>  significant antenna array to draw in non-locals for better listening.
>
>   p

How did you get it to work?

D

On 7/7/2025 7:41 PM, Jim Mueller wrote:
> One thing that many people don't consider is what are they going to listen
> to?  Get a working radio from somewhere and see if there are any stations
> that you like.  Where I live there are two AM stations that are
> tolerable.  The last time I went to the bay area several years ago I
> brought a portable AM/FM radio and found nothing worthwhile.

I listen to most of my radio in the car, and I usually find a wide
variety of stations.  At home, on the AM dial, I'm limited to only a
couple of talk stations, a fuzzy nostalgia station, and a local "classic
hits" station.

I've been meaning to get back into the hobby and build a big AM loop
antenna in the attic.  Every now and again, I'll tune into something
distant like 650 WSM out of Nashville (I'm in Eastern Ohio).

One thing that many people don't seem to know about wooden radios is that
the cabinets weren't varnished.  They couldn't have been.  When they were
making hundreds of radios a day, they couldn't have afforded the time to
let it dry.  So most manufacturers used lacquer which dried in minutes.
The ones that didn't use lacquer used shellac which also dries quickly.
There are people on ARF who can immediately spot a cabinet which has been
"refinished" with polyurethane.  Lacquer (even colored lacquer which some
manufactures used) is still available from specialty companies, even in
spray cans.

--
Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com

To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eggmen.
Then replace nospam with expressmail.  Lastly, replace com with dk.

Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> writes:

> On 7/7/2025 7:41 PM, Jim Mueller wrote:
>> One thing that many people don't consider is what are they going to listen
>> to?  Get a working radio from somewhere and see if there are any stations
>> that you like.  Where I live there are two AM stations that are
>> tolerable.  The last time I went to the bay area several years ago I
>> brought a portable AM/FM radio and found nothing worthwhile.
>
> I listen to most of my radio in the car, and I usually find a wide
> variety of stations.  At home, on the AM dial, I'm limited to only a
> couple of talk stations, a fuzzy nostalgia station, and a local
> "classic hits" station.
>
> I've been meaning to get back into the hobby and build a big AM loop
> antenna in the attic.  Every now and again, I'll tune into something
> distant like 650 WSM out of Nashville (I'm in Eastern Ohio).

If you build the AM loop antenna (looking that up after this post), what
is your intention on running the cabling to your radio? Drop it down a
wall and terminate it in the room?

I wonder how this antenna would work with the build-in antenna inside
the box.

If this is easy, I hope to do something similar in my attic.

D

On 7/13/2025 2:30 AM, Daniel wrote:
> Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> writes:
>
>> On 7/7/2025 7:41 PM, Jim Mueller wrote:
>>> One thing that many people don't consider is what are they going to listen
>>> to?  Get a working radio from somewhere and see if there are any stations
>>> that you like.  Where I live there are two AM stations that are
>>> tolerable.  The last time I went to the bay area several years ago I
>>> brought a portable AM/FM radio and found nothing worthwhile.
>>
>> I listen to most of my radio in the car, and I usually find a wide
>> variety of stations.  At home, on the AM dial, I'm limited to only a
>> couple of talk stations, a fuzzy nostalgia station, and a local
>> "classic hits" station.
>>
>> I've been meaning to get back into the hobby and build a big AM loop
>> antenna in the attic.  Every now and again, I'll tune into something
>> distant like 650 WSM out of Nashville (I'm in Eastern Ohio).
>
> If you build the AM loop antenna (looking that up after this post), what
> is your intention on running the cabling to your radio? Drop it down a
> wall and terminate it in the room?
>
> I wonder how this antenna would work with the build-in antenna inside
> the box.
>
> If this is easy, I hope to do something similar in my attic.

My intent would be to run speaker wire down the inside of the wall.  You
just need the two leads.

Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> writes:

> On 7/13/2025 2:30 AM, Daniel wrote:
>> Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> writes:
>>
>>> On 7/7/2025 7:41 PM, Jim Mueller wrote:
>>>> One thing that many people don't consider is what are they going to listen
>>>> to?  Get a working radio from somewhere and see if there are any stations
>>>> that you like.  Where I live there are two AM stations that are
>>>> tolerable.  The last time I went to the bay area several years ago I
>>>> brought a portable AM/FM radio and found nothing worthwhile.
>>>
>>> I listen to most of my radio in the car, and I usually find a wide
>>> variety of stations.  At home, on the AM dial, I'm limited to only a
>>> couple of talk stations, a fuzzy nostalgia station, and a local
>>> "classic hits" station.
>>>
>>> I've been meaning to get back into the hobby and build a big AM loop
>>> antenna in the attic.  Every now and again, I'll tune into something
>>> distant like 650 WSM out of Nashville (I'm in Eastern Ohio).
>> If you build the AM loop antenna (looking that up after this post),
>> what
>> is your intention on running the cabling to your radio? Drop it down a
>> wall and terminate it in the room?
>> I wonder how this antenna would work with the build-in antenna
>> inside
>> the box.
>> If this is easy, I hope to do something similar in my attic.
>
> My intent would be to run speaker wire down the inside of the wall.
> You just need the two leads.

Oh ok. I figured iit would be coax or something. So you intend on
drilling a hole in the dry wall and pushing the wires through.